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Posted 3/13/2006 9:48:33 PM
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Hi guys,

I want to take part in the driving school (BAB8) at Tremblant, but I'm concerned about the rule on harness expriry date.

Does the rule on expiry date apply only for Club Racing, or does it also apply to students of the driving school?

I drive a 2000 miata with Autopower camlock harnesses that are rated SFI 16.1 dated Sep '01... which is well over the 2 year rule!?

Is this a by the book rule that would prevent me from participating in the BAB8 event?

Thanks,  Phil

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Posted 3/15/2006 11:14:45 AM


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wello (3/13/2006)
Hi guys,

I want to take part in the driving school(BAB8) at Tremblant,but I'm concerned about the rule on harness expriry date.

Does the rule on expiry date apply only for Club Racing, or does it also apply to students of the driving school?

I drive a 2000 miata with Autopower camlock harnesses thatare rated SFI 16.1 dated Sep '01... which is well over the 2 year rule!?

Is this a by the book rule that would prevent me from participating in the BAB8 event?

Thanks, Phil


Hi Phil, we discussed this a little bit in the quebec forum. I'm not the definitive answerer, but I've seen us reject cars with expored SFI ratings. The legal issue is that if a seatbelt actually has an expiration date, boston could incur liability by approving a belt past expiration. This is a little weird when there are people using 15 year old stock belts running, but they don't have expiration dates.

This forum isn't nearly as active as the quebec forum so you might not get a more authoritative answer. You might consider emailing the event chair or chief instructor directly. Contact info is on the boston webpage.

From an actual personal safety point of view, you might take a look at the SFI website to see how fast race harness nylon degrades. It's scary. I believe that OEM seatbelts are made of something which degrades a lot more slowly.

You should be able to get your harnesses re-webbed for less than it would cost to get new harnesses (keep all the hardware), but I haven't done this. The SFI website indicated that this is acceptable. Somehow you'd have to get a new expiration sticker.
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Posted 3/15/2006 7:52:09 PM
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Thanks John for the feedback.

I did have a look at a document by G-Force on webbing strength degradation through time... as you said..scary!

It was enough to convice me to buy new ones.

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Posted 3/25/2006 7:08:23 PM
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From the G-Force website:

G-FORCE Racing Gear Belt Re-Web Program

The age of any restraint system is crucial to the performance and effectiveness in the event of an accident. G-FORCE Racing Gear is proud to offer a Re-Webbing program for both the Latch & Link and the Camlock designed systems. When you send back your outdated G-FORCE Racing Gear harness set, all hardware is thoroughly checked for wear and replaced if necessary. Then all webbing is removed, discarded and replaced with brand new G-FORCE Racing Gear webbing. All appropriate FIA and SFI labels are attached and the rebuilt belt system will be shipped directly to you. This program takes 2-3 weeks and the cost is $49.99 plus shipping for latch & Link and $84.99 plus shipping for Camlock systems.Please contact us for more information.

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Posted 1/10/2008 9:47:41 PM
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Hi Phil;

I would strongly suggest you contact HMS Motorsport. These guys are the safety "elite team" for the club and are Schroth certified! Any safety questions you may have, give'em a call. They are a great group of guys and like i said, they take care of most of us in terms of safety at the track and DE's. Here's their site www.hmsmotorsport.com

See you at the track!
M
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